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correspondent kim ghattas and her book, "the secretary: a joinny with hillary clinton from beirut to the heart of american power." in it, ms. ghattas examines ms. clinton's role and seeks to answer whether u.s. power is in decline. the program is about an hour. >> host: i think where we should begin is to talk a little bit about your biography, because i think as much as this book is about hillary clinton and her time as secretary of state, it's also about your experience from beirut to covering the secretary of state around the world. so why don't you just begin by talking a little bit about where you came from. >> guest: well, great. sure. jamie, thank you for having me, and i'm flighted by your first question because, of course, the biggest star in the book is hillary clinton herself, but this isn't just a biography of an historic woman, it's also a different take on the whole issue of american power. and as you mention, i come from beirut. i grew up there. i was born in beirut in the middle of the civil war in 1977, and i lived my whole life in lebanon, first 13 years in war and then the r
clinton from beirut to the heart of american power." she conditions miss clinton's role, and whether u.s. power is in decline. the program is about an hour. >> where we should begin is to talk about your biography. i think as much as this book is about hillary clinton and her time as secretary of state, it's also about your experience from beirut to covering the secretary of state around the world. so, why don't you just begin by talking about where you came from. >> guest: great. thank you very much for having me. i'm delighted to be here and delighted by your first question. the star, the biggest star in the book is hillary clinton herself. but this isn't just a biography of an historic woman. it's also a different take on the whole issue of american power, and as you mention i come from beirut. i grew up there i was born in beirut in the middle of the civil tbhar 197- -- civil war in 1977 and i lived my whole life in lebanon, 13 years in war, and then the rest of the time, there was not exactly a stable country, so we've been through many, many ups and downs, and i lived through all
. an interview with kim ghattas and her book, trailing. she examines mrs. clinton's role in u.s. diplomacy abroad and also seeks to answer by the u.s. power is in decline. the program is about one hour. >> host: i think we should begin is to talk about your biography. as much as this book is about hillary clinton at a time the secretary of state, it's also about your experience from beirut, the sector of state around the world. so why don't you become a talking about where you came from. >> guest: thank you very much for having me. i'm delighted to be here and and a lot of by your first question. the biggest are in the book is hillary clinton herself. but this isn't just a biography of a historic woman. it's also a different take on the whole issue of american power. as you mentioned i come from beirut. i grew up there. i was born in beirut in the middle of the civil war in 1977. i did -- spit my whole life in lebanon. first 13 years in war and then the rest of the time that some people may know, beirut is not exactly this table country. so we've been through many, many ups and downs but i lived
clinton and bill clinton are lining up with other democrats. fasten your seat belt. >>> finally, why is cnn's dana bash running after michele bachmann. what is it that she clearly doesn't want to talk about? this is "hardball," the place for politics. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max come. c-max go. c-max give a ride to everyone it knows. c max has more passenger volume than competitor prius v and we haven't even mentioned... c-max also gets better mpg. say hi to the super fuel efficient ford c-max hybrid. yeah? then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. silence. are you in good hands? >>> the candidates in second and third place were so close that there will be an automatic recount to see who he will face in that runoff. elizabeth colbert bush, sister of stephen colbert, finished first as expected. we'll be right back. the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup ca
wither had. key democrats, including hillary clinton and bill clinton are lining up with other democrats. fasten your seat belt. >>> finally, why is cnn's dana bash running after michele bachmann. what is it that she clearly doesn't want to talk about? this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ female announcer ] made just a little sweeter... because all these whole grains aren't healthy unless you actually eat them ♪ multigrain cheerios. also available in delicious peanut butter. healthy never tasted so sweet. [ male announcer ] from the way the bristles move to the way they clean, once you try an oral-b deep sweep power brush, you'll never go back to a regular manual brush. its three cleaning zones with dynamic power bristles reach between teeth with more brush movements to remove up to 100% more plaque than a regular manual brush. and even 76% more plaque than sonicare flexcare in hard to reach areas. oral-b deep sweep 5000 power brush. life opens up when you do. >>> well, former south carolina governor mark sanford took another step in his political comeback. sanford finished fi
bill and hillary clinton are lining up behind another democrat. fasten your seat belts for that race. >>> watch why cnn's dana bash is running after michele bachmann and what is it that bachmann clearly doesn't want to talk about. this is "hardball," a place for politics. wait g, waiting... feel like you're growing older... waiting to look younger? don't wait. [ female announcer ] get younger looking skin fast. with new olay regenerist micro-sculpting cream. the next generation with 2 new anti-aging ingredients. it penetrates rapidly. visible wrinkle results start day 1. and you'll see younger looking skin before you even finish one jar. ♪ new olay regenerist. the wait is over. >>> well, former south carolina governor mark sanford took another step in his political comeback. sanford finished first in yesterday's congress am primary to replace tim scott who moved on to the senate. sanford won 37% of the vote which means he faces a runoff two queeks from frou. the candidates in second and third place were so close there will be an automatic recount to determine who sanford will face
like this, because the clintons won pretty well. they'll probably win again, governor. and obama won twice. and i'm thinking back to when they were in really bad shape. i'm thinking back to maybe mcgovern, when they really had a -- bob strauss came along. you know, like you, as a party chair and tried to rebuild out of what goodwill and a little bit of b.s., i guess, from bob. the idea was to rebuild. sometimes you just have to say, we have to hunker down, admit we're not too popular, and just hope time's going to change? what can you change with a political party? does any party ever say, let's do it different? and get away with it? clinton? >> well, yeah, i think bill clinton did that with the d.o.c. and sort of changed the direction of the party on policy. they've got to do that. the first thing i would do, were i a republican chair, is i would promote republicans. i'd give exposure to republicans who were pro-choice, who believe that a woman has a right to choose. i would try to show we are truly a big tent. i would try to put someone up who like marco rubio on immigration and sa
. >>> president obama involved on the issue last week. hillary clinton posted her opinion. what that might mean for the supreme court's decision. >>> first, though finger-lickin' politics. why one political source is becoming the source for barbecue critique. you're watching msnbc. do we have a mower? no. a trimmer? no. we got nothing. we just bought our first house, we're on a budget. we're not ready for spring. well let's get you ready. very nice. you see these various colors. we got workshops every saturday. yes, maybe a little bit over here. this spring, take on more lawn for less. not bad for our first spring. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. get ortho home defense, a special buy at just $6.88. ♪ but will it stay fabulous 'til 5 o'clock? it will if it's new outlast stay fabulous foundation from covergirl. what makes it so flawless hour after hour? primer, concealer and foundation, all in one. get the longwear that survives the 9 to 5, fabulously. new outlast stay fabulous foundation from easy, breezy, beautiful covergirl. new outlast stay fabulous foundation e
an enemy, and the friendly bill clinton coming to israel and winning the hearts of israelis instantly, although their positions were very critical of israeli policy, definitely is a d saddat. the trick for president obama now, and i think this is exactly what he's trying to do. he says trying to clinton-ize himself, reach out and give the israelis the hug they did not get for four years. if this works, that lays the foundation for a renewed peace process, then he can come with the difficult stuff and say to israelis, i love you so much, i care for you, i stand by you, therefore you must act now and take some risks in order to improve your position, dealing with occupation and see the middle east as it is. >>> and the middle east as it is, you understand this region so well, post-arab spring, with the real danger on israel's doorstep, not only syria in civil war, but egypt in a potential meltdown of security t. how does he deal with that? >> i think think a fair, interesting and challenging moment. he challenges everybody. israelis must realize they have to deal with occupation and sto
and bill clinton met at camp david with-- >> was he a terrorist. >> you can't do-- it doesn't matter whether he was or not. you have to deal with-- if you're going to have peace you have to work with both parties. you don't have to like both parties, but. >> sean: cover up the cross, but speak under a picture of arafat. >> we were meeting with abbas' on their turf, in their presidential arena and you come-- if you come to the white house, if you come to the white house and meet with our president and you don't like the fact that george washington is sitting over a desk-- >> george washington isn't a terrorist. and wait, i have a question. >> the british probably thought he was. >> sean: was he a terrorist? >> of course he was. >> sean: thank you, thank you. but the british probably thought that george washington was a terrorist. >> sean: if i was president, billy cunningham, i wouldn't speak under a picture of a terrorist. >> sean hannity we wondered what a second jimmy carter term would look like we now know. there's a line in north korea, don't cross the line, nuclear bombs are goi
of state hillary clinton that she had, in testimony she says she hasn't spoken with any of these survivors because of the fbi's ongoing investigation. the fbi is going to be speaking about the status of that investigation. what do you think needs to come forward? what questions need to be asked here? >> well, i think there's so many angles here and, by the way, so many people in the intel community both former and current members and also the military are so happy that we are continuing to talk about this. very few people are, but this is such an important issue. that appearance by, that ridiculous appearance by hillary clinton up on the hill sometime ago -- remember, this is six months on from the attack in benghazi, you know, half of the room was slobbering deference over how wonderful she is, and the other half couldn't take a couple of quick questions and keep hammering on those. the white house has an obligation to explain themselves, to talk about why the cavalry was never called. the expectation is that when, you know, it hits the fan and everything starts to go south, you've got so
-sex marriages as former secretary of the lord clinton has come out in support same-sex unions. kron fours dan kerman looks at what clinton had said. >> i support marriage or lesbian and gay couples. i supported personally and as a matter of policy law. >> former secretary of state's hillary clinton joined a list of politicians to come out in support of same-sex marriage. >> a few years ago bill and i celebrated as our own daughter mary the love of her life. i wish every parent that same joy. >> to deny the opportunity to any of our daughters and sons solely on the basis of who they are and who they love is to deny them the chance to live up to their own god-given potential. >> clinton jointer of the former president bill clinton, and president barack obamas and a host of conservative who previously opposed same-sex marriage and now support it. >> public opinion has also turned in favor. the question remains what, if any impact would this have on the supreme court question are being duly nice to constitutional law of the universe burst in san franciscuniversity of san franc. >> the public at l
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benefits as couples. in fact, bill clinton who signed doma into law when he was president, is now asking the u.s. supreme court to overturn it. let's bring in cnn legal contributor powell cowen. how much will the reversal potentially make? >> supreme court justices would tell you they're immune from politicians lobbying them. they're appointed for life by the president, and the founding fathers frankly set up the system so you would have sort of an independent judiciary. i don't think bill clinton's position will have a major impact on the court. >> so what the constitutional argument that will be made to keep doma in place? >> well, there are two cases before the court this week. one on tuesday and one on wednesday. the first on tuesday is called the prop 8 case. california case, and it's very interesting because the california supreme court said gay marriage is legal. they said it's against the california constitution to ban it. and then lawyers came in and voters went out and they adopted prop 8, which amended the california constitution to make it illegal. so they stuck it to the jud
& jerry's and bernie sanders. >> it's no accident to me, chris, this began to shift with bill clinton. bill clinton very much made it his mission to move the democratic party, quote, to the middle. you know, that was the democratic leadership council. they're not going to give up on the south. even today bill clinton is obsessed with this notion of the sorting out of america. he's always referring to bill bishop's book. when i saw clinton the other week, he mentioned it to me. meaning the country is disaggregating. if bill clinton stood for anything, it was to try to end that kind of thing. he didn't succeed, but he began to lay the groundwork for the type of campaign barack obama ran and won two elections on. >> fascinated by this moment. >> yeah. >> he came up to you, the former president. >> we were talking. >> kriz mcharismatic gentleman. he came up to you and said, howard -- >> he mentioned it out of the blue. there was a reason for that. we were in kentucky talking about the possibility of somebody like ashley judd running and is it possible for kentucky to get a democratic mess
you think of bill clinton? >> i think bill clinton is probably the finest communicator that has ever inhabited the white house. i think that if they ever break down and invite me over there, as i've asked them to do on numerous occasions, i probably would have a great evening talking to him. i think he's probably one of the friendliest people that has ever occupied that office. but i do not believe that he is what he represents himself to be. i find, of all of the promises that he made during the campaign, virtually to be null and void. abortion, for example. he said he wanted to make them safe, legal, and rare. well, he certainly continues to make them legal, but anything but rare. and a number of other things. i mean, from the whole gay rights thing-- he told them one thing, he's doing another; to taxes, and the rest. so i think he realized that the country was not going to elect a liberal, so he put a conservative face on, but the truth is coming out now. >> talk from your perspective about the ronald reagan and his belief in god and non- churchgoing that we saw, and bill clinton,
that hillary clinton is publicly supporting same-sex marriage. of course, her husband, former president bill clinton, who signed that into law say that d.o.m.a. should be overturned and senator rob portman is citing his familiarity with this issue, his son is gay. how do you think this is going to play out in the 2014 midterms and then subsequently 2016 general election? >> well, alex, we've seen a clear shift in public opinion on this issue over the last ten years. it's been quite dramatic. all sorts of polls now, including the reuter's poll last week shows that the public supports gay marriage even civil unions. even in the south, the majority supports gay marriage or civil unions together. democrats are united on this issue. they say it's a big winner, especially among younger voters, and there's a real sort of active debate within the republican party about how to play this. there's a lot of people saying we've got to stop emphasizing these social issues because they are not working in our favor. however, if you're going to have a divisive 2016 primary, rick santorum is going to want to
. for example, bill clinton was not the first, and bill clinton was not the worst when it comes to misbehavior in high office. there's a long, long history of it. and eliot spitzer, arnold schwarzenegger, john edwards, these guys -- david petraeus had nothing on alexander hamilton. and what we find is if you read, for example, letters written by martha washington during those winter camps, she was tough. she was like a soldier. she didn't complain about the weather, she didn't complain about the harsh conditions, but she did complain about one thing. there was a tom cat one winter that was misbehaving, and it was noisy, noisy, and it kept her awake at night, so she nicknamed the tom cat alexander hamilton. [laughter] i also did a book a few years ago called "life in the white house," and it was about the presidents at ease. what do they eat? what hobbies do they have? what are they like as fathers and husbands? how did their their kids turn out? as another way of assess l presidential character, providing us with another lens. for example, we're all still trying to figure out dick nixon, right
ahead. bill clinton getting involved in a kentucky senate race. not good news for ashley judd. democra "30 rock" in new york city. we begin overseas. air force one will touchdown in tel aviv for president obama's first trip since he was a candidate back in 2008. a source of controversy of course. the president embarked on the trip yesterday evening has a packed schedule, including meetings with the israeli president and joint tpheus conference with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. a stalled peace process with the palestinians, there's a lot to talk about. peter alexander live in tel aviv. peter, what are we expecting today? >> reporter: well, he's got a busy trip, though it's not a very long one. we're in the city of jerusalem. bill, you can see on this gorgeous day, the old city of jerusalem, holy city. a senior administration official giving advice on the issue said this provides the opportunity for a reset between the relationship that the u.s. has with israel. in many ways this trip will be more about symbolism, though, than it is about substance. here they are billing as the unb
. clinton four times and bush in 2008. they went at a moment they were on the cusp -- and the president is coming to close a deal. >> this is about iran? >> there is no deal. >> i think he is sending a message to iran and israelis. i think he is trying to speak over the heads of israelis leaders and say to the israeli people give me time. i'm working on iran. give me time. i have your back, israel. >> is this about become? >> no, do that in the next block. >> this time it's personal. >> on the nation's debate on gun reform. president obama's initiative to reduce violence in america has been severely weakened. harry reid has announced the most controversial and ambitious part of the president's proposal a ban on assault weapons will not make the final cut when he brings the bill up for debate. >> but, right now, her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes. that's not 60. i have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues i talked about and what i'm going to try to do. i'm not going to try to put something on the floor t
and that's going to create growth. that's going to create an explosion of jobs. just like bill clinton did. no, no, no, no, no. it's exactly the opposite. it's the other way around. bill clinton created jobs, created growth in the economy, and that's what had the effect of balancing the budget, because we got so much more in tax revenues from those people that were working and paying taxes and from those businesses that are going great gangbusters and paying more taxes into the coffers. and we had more growth. so that's, you know, the republicans have these things exactly backwards. and rand paul has them even more backwards than paul ryan does. but, you know, there's no, you know, it's like talking to a brick wall. there's nothing that can be done and there's no negotiation that can be made with such people. >> i wonder, heather, how much of a liability this is going to be in 2014. you now have mitch mcconnell and john cornyn and ted cruz on record supporting turning the social -- basically tearing the social safety net asunder. and the question is, are they going to be held accountable f
for senate. politico reports that former president bill clinton and other big-name democrats are trying to get someone else to run against mitch mcconnell in kentucky. one of the names emerging is 34-year-old allison lundergan grimes, the kentucky secretary of state. ashley judd hasn't even said she's decided to run. >>> they're calling it a vote-a-rama. in the chamber that's usually slow to move. senators will be allowed to offer unlimited amendments to the budget. >>> attorney general eric holder is back to work today after taking leave to do his civic duty. the former judge reported for jury duty yesterday. he was dismissed. >>> and a new children's book teaches kids about the national debt. now, the villain in "mr. penny and the dragon of domeville" is a dragon that eats money, designed to represent a bloated federal government. the author says he wants to remind kids and their families that the country is in trouble. >>> and if you read only one thing this morning, a lot of pundits have predicted the new pope, francis, may surprise people. well, today the "new york times" reports o
. >> sure. >> thanks. >>> could bill clinton be talking out of both sides of his mouth? the report that suggests escorting two candidates for the same office. we will talk about that. >>> first though, kristen cinema is here, very excited about being here. we just had a 15-minute conversation to make up. we can't talk about that. we can talk immigration, marriage equality and how her freshman year on capitol hill is going so far. come back. do we have a mower? no. a trimmer? no. we got nothing. we just bought our first house, we're on a budget. we're not ready for spring. well let's get you ready. very nice. you see these various colors. we got workshops every saturday. yes, maybe a little bit over here. this spring, take on more lawn for less. we can't talk about that. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. get ortho home defense, we can't talk about that. t let's get a recap, merv. [ merv ] thanks, other merv. we can talk immigration, was three times faster on permanent marker. elsewhere against dirt, it was a sweep, with scuffed sports equipment... had it c
that is to have the kind of balance that we had, frankly, at the end of president clinton's two terms in office where you had a balance between the investment of the revenues you're putting into the system and, secondly, that you had the spending levels which we have to bring down to get to that level. so that kind of balance is the only way to go. we have to do two things very well, create jobs and move the economy forward, that's first. that's first priority. and, second, make agreements that will lead to spending cuts over the next ten years and have those cuts go into effect in a couple of years, not right away. that's why we deal with the sequestration in our budget so we can take that, reverse that, and not have the adverse impact that we're already beginning to see. >> senator bob casey, improse sif, sir, given your all-nighter. i applaud you. really good. i don't know how you could stay awake and sound great and make good sense so thank you so much. >>> frustration and anger in chicago after the city announces plans to close more than 50 public schools. principals, teachers, families al
of experience as a commentator for cnn after .lecting bill clinton in 1992, riding out of the right corner, the fox news contributor and standing tall,-- tucker carlson. >> we will have some fun here today. >> this is going to be a three- round bout. there are no rules, and a fighter can be saved by the bell. let's shake hands. we are ready to go. i will be tossing out a series of topics, and each fighter will have one minute to respond. we are going to go based on an order that was decided backstage, completely fairly, documented after we made sure all voters had id. we are going to begin with paul, and in each case, each of them will be asked the same question. [bell rings] there is the bell. we are ready to go. it is round one, question one -- america -- isn't that magnificent? i can see why you would get distracted. america is the world's policeman. >> get over it. >> thank you, tucker. it is a beautiful facility. to the extent we are willing to let crazy people romp through our neighborhood, yes, we are the world's policeman. we are not the world's social worker. to the extent that we
ronald reagan say? >> mr. gorbachev, tear that wall down. >> what does bill clinton say? >> i did not have relations with that woman. >> very good. what does john f. kennedy say? >> ask not what you can do for your country -- ask not what you can do for your country. >> pretty good. >> but -- >> okay. what does george w. bush -- >> but ask what your country can do for you. >> okay. what does george w. bush say? >> [inaudible] >> what does george h. bush say? >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> what does our main man, barack obama, say? >> yes, we can! yes, we can! yes, we can! yes, we can! >> very good. >>brian: ladies and gentlemen, a two-year-old. that's incredible. >>anna: we've got to get this kid on the show. >>steve: he got a little hung up on what john f. kennedy said but he knew exactly what bill clinton said. >>brian: unbelievable. i don't know if he know what bill clinton said. >>steve: he knew the line. >>brian: he even knew how to count. incredible. >>anna: 6:34. to your news headline. senate majority leader harry reid con conceding duet on the democrats -- con seethe de
' are trivializing these issues. every president had problems besides bill clinton because israel does not want to establish a two-state solution and that's the-- >> and he said he was going to fix this and he wasn't able to. saying america was arrogant in cairo didn't work, did it, colonel west? >> well, sean, let's start with andrea mitchell over at msnbc, said this is the worst relationship she's seen and she's been covering since ronald reagan. and the first interview was al-arabi al-arabiya. and in cairo talked about a new beginning between the united states and muslim world. i think we've seen pan out a muslim brotherhood government in control and we misread the arab spring and the muslim brotherhood said they wouldn't run someone for president and they did. we've seen hamas stronger as well as hezbollah, islamic jihad. and we've seen incredibly unstable situation in syria. when i was there on a congressional visit and we sat down with president netanyahu, one thing he asked, he was concerned about iran and the dominance and occurred and we have the iranian guard in syria. and their march
weapons ban passed in 1994 and that required a lot of arm twisting on the part of president bill clinton on members of his own part for exactly this reason, because there are a lot of democrats and in a lot of red states with very big gun cultures and significant opposition to gun control measures that clinton really had to work every bit of political capital he had to get that done in '94. barack obama has shown, even though they gave all of these remarks in the state of the union address and elsewhere, megyn, that he's just not willing to pick up that fight and die on this particular hill. harry reid looks at his caucus and says, look, i've got 55 democrats in my senate caucus here. i can't get 40 votes for this. i've got a number of very vulnerable democrats coming up in red states like alaska, arkansas, louisiana. >> megyn: north carolina. >> west virginia, north carolina, montana for example, i don't want them dying on this hill and i'm going to strip it out. have it voted on, they will vet a vote, and on an amendment and that means the death of the ban. >> megyn: even dianne feinst
want and you actually expect bill clinton it's not president obama to say. but privately he is grousing. do you see in the 50's a man that is at war with himself over what he believes? >> i can see that. one of the most interesting things following this thread of mixing and civil rights, i mentioned the trip to africa and 67, and that's where we met martin luther king, dr. martin luther king who was 28-years-old at the time and nixon they've really got along. particularly trying to see nixon to lobby for the administration you wanted to get to eisenhower. they said sure, come and see me. they met in washington at the office and they stayed in touch regularly. and king really felt they had a correspondence he was really admired pity and he had a good sensitivity about this. the one black man and eisenhower's white house salmon named fred mauro and he wrote a book called a black book in the white house and he felt completely sort of alienated. people he felt prejudice but he felt -- he said fred i don't think you should always be talking about job issues that affect black people. i think
] >> in a recent closed-door speech, bill clinton spoke about american dollars. "these people have been listening to this stuff so long, they believe that." "it is not surprising that their bitter and cling to guns and religion." we grant them power. we protect them. they do not make us free. as long as we have the second amendment, we always will be. ourre america and politicians are only as powerful as we the people will allow. the latest from the nra, again focusing on guns, background checks. a look at guns and video games in our country. of course, front and center, following what happened in newtown, conn. last december. the hearst newspaper focusing on all of these issues, this writing -- chronicle," exploring one aspect of our culture, the prevalence of violence in our media. read some of the opinions available online. a lot of people weighing in on all of this. brian joins us from sterling heights, michigan. morning. caller: how are you? host: fine, thank you. caller: excellent. video games, as long as a , let thes a scapegoat parents raise the kids. back in the 1980's and 1990's anytime
did this and president johnson did this and in my judgment president clinton did this remarkably wem. and i think president obama is getting better. today he's meeting with 13 senators tonight at the jefferson hotel in washington. which maybe our conference helped move along. but it is tough -- i want to mention one other thing. it's tough because it's hard tore deal with the congress and sometimes it's unpless tonight deal with the congress. but there is no other choice, the president must engage. but one of the other issues i want to raise quickly is another factor, and charlie you talked about this a bit. in the days we were building this country, the space program and all these wonderful things it was easier to work together. let's look at the things they are dealing with today, sequester, how are we going to cut medicare, social security, how are we going to get the budget down. these are tough. these are politically difficult positions to take. in an environment where everything is just cutting and reducing, it's not natural for people to enjoy doing the job under those circums
this as good as anybody, and my judgment president clinton did this remarkably well. i think president obama is getting better. today, he's meeting with 13 senators at the jefferson hotel in washington. maybe that will help our conference move along. but it is -- it is tough because -- i want to mention one other thing. it is tough because it is harder to deal with the congress and sometimes it is unpleasant to deal with the congress. but there is no other choice. the president must engage and it is a learning experience. one other issues i wanted to raise quickly. another factor and charlly talked about this. -- charlie talked about this. it was easier to work together. look at what they are dealing with, sequester, cutting, how do we cut medicare? when are we going to cut social security? how do we get the budget down? >> these what i call tough -- almost impossiblely difficult positions to take. in an environment where everything is reducing, cutting, it is not natch for people to enjoy doing the job under those circumstances. they don't feel positive to each other and friendly to reach o
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